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3M 3M Headlight Restoration Kit

The 3M Headlight Restoration Kit is designed to restore headlight lenses that are losing clear visibility. This increases the visibility capacity of fogged, yellowed, cloudy or hazy dull looking headlights by improving their performance. Instead of purchasing a new headlight, this auto headlight cleaner restores your old lenses, thereby helping you save money. After using this restoration kit, the appearance of the vehicle will be an improved one and also the visibility of the road. This kit weighs about 0.3 pounds and the dimensions of the 3M Headlight Restoration Kit are: 3.409 in length, 5.875 in width and 7.781 inches in height. Detailed instructions are provided with 3M Headlight Restoration Kit and so it is easy to use.
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Questions & Answers for 3M 3M Headlight Restoration Kit

Question

Will this help frosted foggy looking headlights?

My headlights look frosted over even though they should be clear. When you wet them they look clear but when they dry they go back to a dingy frosty fogged look and you can't see anything. Will this help or is the problem on the inside? Tried a cheap $6 kit and it did nothing to help.
asked 2 years, 7 months ago
By
an anonymous customer
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
12 answers
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answer 1
Yes -- mine were in the same condition and they are now crystal-clear. The product is amazing and well worth the price.
answered 2 years, 1 month ago
By
MrBoats
 - MrBoats
answer 2
Yes, it will even correct any problem from the kit you used prior (if any) and completely remove the foggy, dingy look of the oxidized plastic. Don't rush through it, let the drill do the work (don't apply too much pressure) and keep the surface lubricated with water and your headlights will look as close to new as you could want when they are polished out.
answered 2 years, 1 month ago
By
an anonymous customer
 - Salisbury, NC
answer 3
This kit is made to restore the outside of your headlight. Usually the frosting is on the outside of the lens because of the weather elements. If the frosting is on the outside it will make them clear and look almost brand new.
answered 2 years, 2 months ago
By
XtremeBowHunter
 - MA
answer 4
Follow the directions and they will look good s new. Mine were pretty foggy and now they are clear as glass.
answered 2 years, 2 months ago
By
RazorJim
 - Dallas, TX
answer 5
You will be amazed what this will do for your frosted headlights!
answered 2 years, 2 months ago
By
TheFlyingHillBilly
 - Northern California
answer 6
I believe that it will. If the lenses feel rough it is probably the outside that is the problem. This will smooth and polish them, and they will be clearer. I used it on some very yellowed and rough lenses and it did great.
answered 2 years, 3 months ago
By
rmphoto
answer 7
This product only works on the surface.
answered 2 years, 4 months ago
By
Raskolnik
answer 8
My headlights looked like what you are describing; patchy frosted places on the headlight lens that seemed to go away when wet. The kit restored the lens to a clear, like-new condition. Definitely would recommend this product.
answered 2 years, 5 months ago
By
johnatwm
answer 9
Yes this will help, a LOT. Just follow the instructions!
answered 2 years, 5 months ago
By
snatch101
 - Rapid City, SD
answer 10
Mine were the same. This worked.
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answered 2 years, 6 months ago
By
mdh8b
answer 11
If they look clear when you wet them, than I'm assuming the damage is on the outside of the lens. So yes this kit will help. Just be sure to follow instructions, including using a good CORDED drill that runs around 1400rpm. See my review for pics of how bad my car was, and what I was able to do with this kit. If your's only look frosted, you'll have an easy go at it. Mine were yellowed badly with alot of crazing and pitting, and you can see how it turned out. Nothing short of amazing!
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answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
ferret13sj
answer 12
I believe so. B'coz this kit comes with sanding paper and it require you to remove a layer from that foggy plastic cover surface. Don't worry of sanding because it comes with polishing compound as well. Just follow the instructions given in the pack and when it comes to sanding don't hesitate to remove a good layer of plastic!
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
pakaya
 - PT
Question

How many headlights can be restored from this one package?

asked 2 years, 8 months ago
By
IslandsOfAdventure
 - Oviedo, FL
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
12 answers
Answers
answer 1
2 vehicles
answered 2 years, 3 months ago
By
cado15
answer 2
I used a cordless drill on mine and just got the first headlight done with the kit. Ran out of the first sanding discs. My cordless drill was supposed to run at 1400rpm on high, but in hindsight I would say it doesnt' run that fast. I only got that one headlight done with the kit. I bought another kit, and another CORDED drill that does run at 1400rpm, and that second headlight went so much faster and easier. Amazing results. Really. Just make sure you have the correct tools and the time and patience to do it right. Others have reported that they do more than one car with one kit, so I'm assuming they had the right drill for the job.
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answered 2 years, 7 months ago
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ferret13sj
answer 3
If you do not use more than one pad per headlight, you can do two cars or four headlights.
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answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
norbertk
answer 4
I used it on the 2 headlights on my 97 Ford 350 super duty, but that used up the sanding pads and the rubbing compound.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
JIM10987
 - Smithton, MO
answer 5
Realistically only a pair of headlights. If you were just trying to do a quick cleanup of the lenses you could probably do 2 pairs.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
Z28ragtop
answer 6
I was able to do a set of double full size Chevy Pickup lights and single Mazda Protege headlights.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
gforce73
 - Maine
answer 7
one set
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
ITCM
 - Fort Belvoir, VA
answer 8
I would say it depends on severity of the dullness of your headlights. My headlights were very dull and I used most of the sanding pads. I believe I have 1 left of each grade so I could probably do one more really dull headlight or 2 headlights that have minor dullness.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
Chikluvit
 - Lawton, OK
answer 9
I did two '97 Buick sedan lights. FOr more than that, you may need more sanding pads and polish.
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answered 2 years, 8 months ago
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fotolearner
 - Lenexa, Kansas
answer 10
Depends on how bad they are. I dd 2 and have enough left for 2 more probably. For $15 bucks though its still cheap and it works great even if you only get 2 lights out of it.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
Lavapit
answer 11
It depends on the size of the headlights. The instructions say larger headlights may require more than one kit. One kit was enough for a 2000 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport's headlights. One kit was also enough for a 1997 Mercury Cougar XR7.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
papatuzz
 - Marion, Ky.
answer 12
I had enough for 4 headlights
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
ramrut
 - MD
Question

How many lenses does one kit do?

asked 1 year, 4 months ago
By
frugal to a fault
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
12 answers
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answer 1
It easily does 2 headlights with some of the first stage pads left over. If you really were extra careful, you might be able to do 3 but I think 4 would be a struggle. The last sanding pad (the polish pad) only has one in the kit, so I think that would be your limiting factor. Also depends on how bad your headlights are, as the worse they are the more sanding required.
answered 5 months, 2 weeks ago
By
northofsomewhere
answer 2
I did two cars, which was four headlight lenses. Enough product left to probably do a third.
answered 5 months, 2 weeks ago
By
atwoodnative
answer 3
Did both mine with left over
answered 6 months ago
By
Homepeach
answer 4
In theory, you can do two lenses with one kit. However, severe scratches or wear will probably only get you through one.
answered 6 months ago
By
NightGyr
answer 5
Two large worn out lenses. Maybe more if the lenses are smaller or not really worn out.
answered 7 months ago
By
SkiRaceGeek
answer 6
I did 3 and can probably do 3 more so 3 sets of headlights.
answered 7 months ago
By
Sleeper8
answer 7
There is enough compound to do probably 10 headlights. They give you enough disks to do probably 4-6 headlights.
answered 8 months ago
By
PDizzyD
answer 8
It finished 2 in bad shape for me.
answered 9 months ago
By
Lieb4
answer 9
If they were as yellowed as mine, one set.
answered 9 months ago
By
cactus68
answer 10
I got it to do both... no problems.
answered 1 year, 2 months ago
By
HskerInID
answer 11
I did two lenses with one kit, then bought some headlight polish from a competitor and had enough sandpaper to do my other car. The results were very impressive.
answered 1 year, 3 months ago
By
jackassofalltrades
answer 12
1pair of lenses. If you conserve or don't have very faded lenses then you may be able to do two pair. But mostly just one pair will be possible with one kit
answered 1 year, 3 months ago
By
Slingger123
Question

How many headlamps can this kit restore?

asked 4 years ago
By
dusbert
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
11 answers
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answer 1
Did our Hyundai, both headlights, and still can do another. Trust me try it!
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
dozer9222
 - Long Pond, PA
answer 2
Enough materials for 2.
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
OjedaLive
answer 3
I only used it on one car and the headlights on it were pretty bad, but I easily have enough leftover to do another car.
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
EngrProf
 - Knoxville, TN
answer 4
I used this product on my ford crown vic and it was in bad shape, I restored the low beam and high beam headlights on it. I also have enough left that I think I could restore two more lenses. But you have to use the sand paper carefully not to tear it up and I reused a couple of peices that I thought was not too wore out yet.
answered 3 years, 4 months ago
By
kyLF
 - Harrodsburg, ky
answer 5
It depends how carefully you wipe the sandpaper clean. I used it for 2 cars, and it did both excellently.
answered 3 years, 4 months ago
By
rabbilen
 - Washington, DC area
answer 6
1 car
answered 3 years, 4 months ago
By
PhysicsDad
answer 7
I got both of mine done on a 99 Contour which has large lights. The sanding pads I still had more that could do another set. The final sanding disk that you use showed some wear and there is only one of these per kit. Also the rubbing compound that you get is in a small packet. If you were to do 2 cars at the same time I think that you could get away with it. I am very happy with the results. My headlights are like glass now.
answered 3 years, 5 months ago
By
rsmiley0
 - Phila, PA
answer 8
depending on how rough you are on the sanding pad i did 2 sets of headlights with 1 of each pad. you get i think 4 of each sanding pad except the wet sanding pad(1) but you can use it alot before it will wear out. mine probably has about 8 more uses left on it
answered 3 years, 5 months ago
By
boagieman
answer 9
it works for 2 lenses. But, like the packaging says, it depends on how badly oxidized your headlights are. If they are really bad, you may need another kit. It comes with multiple sanding pads, but only one wet sanding disk and polishing disk.

1 kit: mild to moderate scratching/yellowing

2 kits: moderate to severe scratches/yellowing.

its worth the money because the results are very noticeable.
answered 3 years, 6 months ago
By
mporto
 - Lee's Summit, MO
answer 10
I'd say 4 at the most, but only if you're very careful about not overusing each sanding pad.
answered 3 years, 6 months ago
By
frekwentflier
answer 11
One car, pretty badly hazed (could not see through at all). I have a few leftovers, so if your cars are not as hazed as mine were, you could do two. Easily. But count on 1 kit per car and you'll be fine.
answered 3 years, 10 months ago
By
wyonick
Question

is the tape included?

asked 2 years, 9 months ago
By
Ineedahummer
 - Grand Prairie, Texas
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
11 answers
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answer 1
There was no tape included in my kit. What I did, since I'm a house painter, I used my regular blue painting tape on the car to prevent sticking. Then I laid duct tape over the blue tape for real protection. I didn't have a single mar on my car around the headlights, and I went at it pretty good. So I guess the answer is no, there is no tape included, but there are easy work arounds.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
ferret13sj
answer 2
Tape is not included. I would recommend using blue painter's tape or regular masking tape.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
norbertk
answer 3
Tape is not included
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
gforce73
 - Maine
answer 4
No, the tape is not included.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
Chikluvit
 - Lawton, OK
answer 5
Nope. Try blue painter's tape.
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answered 2 years, 8 months ago
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fotolearner
 - Lenexa, Kansas
answer 6
No, just get yourself a roll of painters tape or masking tape too.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
Lavapit
answer 7
No, just buy a roll of painters tape
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
ramrut
 - MD
answer 8
NO
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
LDJTBlue
 - Pensacola.Fl
answer 9
No it's not. But it's pretty cheap.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
papatuzz
 - Marion, In.
answer 10
No the tape is not included. You don't have to buy the tape they suggest. Use painters tape any brand.
answered 2 years, 9 months ago
By
LoveGadgets10
 - Long Island, NY
answer 11
No
answered 2 years, 9 months ago
By
Donfromvirginia
 - Virginia
Question

my 06 eclipse has fogging, yellowing and it seems like light scratches. will this product do the job on the scratches also?

asked 3 years, 6 months ago
By
an anonymous customer
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
11 answers
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answer 1
If the scratches are light, yes it will. You will just need to polish them with the 500 grit media longer until you can't see the scratches anymore. Clean the sanding media with a blast of compressed air if you have a lot to do. I think you'll be pleased with the kit's performance. Just carefully follow the instructions and be patient. It'll be worth your effort.
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
shjones
 - Smithfield, UT
answer 2
yes
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
thebigrossman
 - ballston lake
answer 3
absolutely
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
dozer9222
 - Long Pond, PA
answer 4
Absolutely. I had the same appearance on my wife's Honda Civic (6 years of wear and tear).
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
OjedaLive
answer 5
Yes. It may take a little longer sanding with the first 500 grit wheel, but it got rid of all the scratches I had.
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
EngrProf
 - Knoxville, TN
answer 6
All it requires is patience and diligence. You'll be amazed at the result.
answered 3 years, 4 months ago
By
rabbilen
 - Washington, DC area
answer 7
It should mine were pretty bad and it worked. Also, it is Wal-Mart if it does not work; return it. They have great customer service and return policies.
answered 3 years, 4 months ago
By
PhysicsDad
answer 8
If the scratches are not deep, they will take care of the scratches. You actually sand down the lens which causes fine scratches. With each pad the scratches become finer until it because mostly clear (has a little haze). Then you polish it and it's crystal clear. Just take your time and don't push down hard.
answered 3 years, 5 months ago
By
MowgliTheSwimmer
 - Chbg, PA
answer 9
yes it will! it has some sanding pads that you will use to get the fogging, yellowing and scratches out before you polish the lens
answered 3 years, 5 months ago
By
boagieman
answer 10
Yep! It takes about two hours to do a set of headlights though, so be sure you have enough time. When you're finished, be sure to wax your lenses to restore a protective coating.

Warning: this works be removing a layer of the plastic on your lenses. be careful when you use it.
answered 3 years, 6 months ago
By
mporto
 - Lee's Summit, MO
answer 11
Yes, you will sand the scratches right out as part of the process. You'll definitely notice the improvement!
answered 3 years, 6 months ago
By
frekwentflier
Question

Can this product be uesd/done in the cold weather?

asked 2 years, 3 months ago
By
Marmo
 - IL
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
11 answers
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answer 1
I did it in the garage when it was 0 deg outside. garage was only a few deg warmer. Worked fine. You have to spray water on the last disk, but unless you let it sit for a while I don't think that will be an issue.
answered 1 year, 2 months ago
By
HskerInID
answer 2
I think they recommended the temperature be between 65 and 85 degrees. The plastic lens may be brittle if it is too cold, and then heat up too quickly from the sanding.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
By
jackassofalltrades
 - navarre, fl
answer 3
No problem with that. I myself stay at Chicago and have done it. This is no rocket science technology but simple sand procedure where you remove top layers of the plastic light by sanding it and than later apply the provided rubbing compound to it.
answered 1 year, 8 months ago
By
timesnavin
 - Wheeling, IL
answer 4
Nothing in the instructions as to temp. I did mine in 100 degree and worked fine.
answered 1 year, 9 months ago
By
Rwyo
 - Wyoming
answer 5
I am not an expert, but based on my limited experience, there should be no major problem in cold weather. There is one step where you need to apply some water. If it's far below freezing, the water may freeze quickly, but it won't be a problem if it's a little below freezing.
answered 1 year, 11 months ago
By
Peter787
 - Hartord Area
answer 6
Yes, as long as the weather is dry.
answered 2 years ago
By
Str8UpMac
 - Waynesville, MO
answer 7
since you use water for part of the process maybe not.
answered 2 years ago
By
PHMu
 - Boulder, CO
answer 8
Yes -- my brother did it for me in December of last year. The job was done in a garage, but I think it could be done outdoors in above-freezing temp's.
answered 2 years, 1 month ago
By
MrBoats
 - MrBoats
answer 9
Yes, in cold weather but not below freezing, as the liquid required to lubricate the lens will freeze.
answered 2 years, 1 month ago
By
an anonymous customer
 - Salisbury, NC
answer 10
I did my headlights in about 50 degree weather and they came out looking almost brand new.
answered 2 years, 2 months ago
By
XtremeBowHunter
 - MA
answer 11
Yes, cold shouldn't affect it.
answered 2 years, 2 months ago
By
TheFlyingHillBilly
 - Northern California
Question

Finisher

Is there some type of polymer applied after cleaning to protect in the future like the pro restores do?
asked 3 years, 4 months ago
By
an anonymous customer
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
11 answers
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answer 1
The instructions recommend another 3m product for protection, but it is not included. Don't know about the "pro restores" they might just be pulling your leg....
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
ferret13sj
answer 2
There is no extra polymer. The kit comes with polish compound.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
norbertk
answer 3
There is a polish.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
gforce73
 - Maine
answer 4
No. There is only the polish. I don't know if there's any sort of UV protectant in it or not, but they definately look new when you're done.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
papatuzz
 - Marion, Ky.
answer 5
There is not a sealant in this kit.
answered 2 years, 9 months ago
By
PosterChild
answer 6
There is a package of some type you use it when you buff it and they tell you to put some on a microfiber cloth and rub it in as well afterwards and insure that you get it everywhere to help provent it in the future. I believe there are coupons for a protectent as well so you can use it when you wash your car.
answered 2 years, 10 months ago
By
Jrc3
 - KC, MO
answer 7
Not in this one. But there is another kit from 3M which comes with protectant and bit more expensive - google for it or search in Amazon. But I just used common Plastic and Vinyl protectant I had bought previously (cannot remember the brand name, but u can find them in walmart very easily in the Auto dept)
answered 2 years, 11 months ago
By
pakaya
 - MI
answer 8
You use the supplied rubbing compound, so yes. It may protect the lens from oxidation in the future
answered 2 years, 11 months ago
By
ratingproductnickname
 - Wash, DC area
answer 9
Use a good car wax, preferably paste wax.
answered 3 years, 1 month ago
By
teecher
answer 10
There is nothing to apply afterward in the kit. I'm not sure that you can protect from the future because most discoloration is really due to small fine pits made from driving on the road. Over time, enough particales cause pits, scars, and scratches.
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
OjedaLive
answer 11
No. You would need to get that separately.
answered 3 years, 3 months ago
By
EngrProf
 - Knoxville, TN
Question

I have a 2002 Chev Venture and the one headlight burns out when it rains, will this kit take care of that so that I can stop replacing the bulb?

asked 3 years, 2 months ago
By
an anonymous customer
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
11 answers
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answer 1
Probably not....you have some other problem going on.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
ferret13sj
answer 2
This kit will not take care of this. You most likely have a wiring problem.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
norbertk
answer 3
No, your problem sounds like the gasket needs to be replaced to stop the leaking.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
Lavapit
answer 4
I don't think this kit has anything to do with what sounds like an electrical problem with water getting inside the buld somewhere.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
ramrut
 - MD
answer 5
No, sorry. This will only restore the palstic headlight cover. It sounds like you have a defective headlight and will need to buy a new one.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
papatuzz
 - Marion, In.
answer 6
No that sounds like you may have to replace the whole headlight. The seal is probably worn out. This product is strictly for cleaning the outside of your lens when it has a cloudy film.
answered 2 years, 9 months ago
By
LoveGadgets10
 - Long Island, NY
answer 7
No it will not that sounds like you have a Leak in your headlight this product only cleans your headlight. It does not have anyway to reseal your headlight.
answered 2 years, 10 months ago
By
Jrc3
 - KC, MO
answer 8
I don't think it will. It only has some sand papers and a polishing compound for outside of the headlight housing. It does NOT have any thing to prevent leaking. Why don't you seal the surrounding of your headlight with silicone sealant?
answered 2 years, 11 months ago
By
pakaya
 - MI
answer 9
No. This kit removes oxidation from the outside of the plastic lens cover (not the light bulb which you seem to have a problem with evidenced by the burns out when it rains behavior. Might want to see a mechanic to look at your wires, light, etc.
answered 2 years, 11 months ago
By
ratingproductnickname
 - Wash, DC area
answer 10
No
answered 3 years ago
By
FromAustinTX
 - Austin, TX
answer 11
No, you are getting water inside your headlight. Check the rubber ring on the bulb plug and make sure it is properly seated and not damaged.
Also check the housing for cracks.
answered 3 years, 1 month ago
By
teecher
Question

Cloudy inside surface or actually outside surface?

My lenses seem to be clouded on the inside surface; did anyone else think this was the case and buy this anyway and have it work?
asked 3 years, 2 months ago
By
an anonymous customer
on 3M Headlight Restoration Kit
11 answers
Answers
answer 1
worked for me, but mine was on outside. If you have cloudy plastic, this will make whatever surface (inside or out) you use it on clear.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
By
mdh8b
answer 2
Are you sure they're clouded on the inside? If you see condensation on the inside, this won't work. Run your hands across the outside of the lens. If it feels anything less than smooth, it's worth a shot!
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
ferret13sj
answer 3
You may want to check if you see actual condensation or water droplets inside. That is usually an indicator that it may be from the inside. Otherwise it's a $15/1 hour job.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
By
norbertk
answer 4
I thought this was the case with mine, too. I REALLY sanded a lot and couldn't remove all the hazing. However, other reviews and answers say it's just on the exterior.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
fotolearner
 - Lenexa, Kansas
answer 5
Yes, I thought my lennses were bad from the inside, but this stuff sure did the trick!
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
ramrut
 - MD
answer 6
If they are cloudy on the inside you'll need to replace the headlight. That's usually an indication of a defective headlight. This only works on the outside.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
By
papatuzz
 - Marion, In.
answer 7
Yes. I thought it was on the inside but I did a scratch test before I bought the product and realized it was on the outside. All you have to do it scratch the lens with your nail you will be able to tell. If you have a yellowish film 9 times out of 10 it is on the outside.
answered 2 years, 9 months ago
By
LoveGadgets10
 - Long Island, NY
answer 8
If its Clouded on the inside that means your headlights are not sealed and if that is the case water and other things can get inside of it. You will want to replace these. Is the out side of it rough or is it really smooth they can look like the issue is on the inside but its really on the outside.
answered 2 years, 10 months ago
By
Jrc3
 - KC, MO
answer 9
In almost all cases the dicolration is on the OUTSIDE.This product is not used inside the lens .I have been told if it it is on the inside you may have some kind of a leak and need to see a car repair shop.
answered 2 years, 11 months ago
By
99toyboy
 - Tarpon Springs,Florida
answer 10
As far as I can think of this can be used only in inside. Because the sand papers comes as pads for drill attachment. So I cannot think how u would use them in a concave surface (vs. convex)
answered 2 years, 11 months ago
By
pakaya
 - MI
answer 11
Yes. Its on the outside. Just spend the low cost price, read the directions and get it done. Do it twice if not happy with first round.
answered 2 years, 11 months ago
By
ratingproductnickname
 - Wash, DC area
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